Comments on: Making New Places http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/ My Place or Yours is a new kind of writer residency across five regions of England, in real and virtual spaces, exploring the theme of place. Take a moment to wander round and make it your place. We’d love to hear from you. Tue, 07 Feb 2012 18:20:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Sarah Butler http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/comment-page-1/#comment-2135 Sarah Butler Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:26:33 +0000 http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/?p=1124#comment-2135 Hi Charlie I love that idea about sharing inner spaces with the page and the reader. And I agree about the ‘insider’ knowledge of cities. When I lived in Leicester you knew if people were local by the way they pronounced ‘Belvoir’ Street (if you’re local, you say ‘Beaver St’!) I love the idea that names for places only have currency if they are used - that if a council calls a street Sarah Street but everyone who lives there calls it Charlie Street, then it’s called Charlie St :) S Hi Charlie
I love that idea about sharing inner spaces with the page and the reader. And I agree about the ‘insider’ knowledge of cities. When I lived in Leicester you knew if people were local by the way they pronounced ‘Belvoir’ Street (if you’re local, you say ‘Beaver St’!)
I love the idea that names for places only have currency if they are used – that if a council calls a street Sarah Street but everyone who lives there calls it Charlie Street, then it’s called Charlie St :) S

]]> By: Sarah Butler http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/comment-page-1/#comment-2134 Sarah Butler Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:25:51 +0000 http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/?p=1124#comment-2134 Hi Charlie I love that idea about sharing inner spaces with the page and the reader. And I agree about the 'insider' knowledge of cities. When I lived in Leicester you knew if people were local by the way they pronounced 'Belvoir' Street (if you're local, you say 'Beaver St'!) I love the idea that names for places only have currency if they are used - that if a council calls a street Sarah Street but everyone who lives there calls it Charlie Street, then it's called Charlie St :) S Hi Charlie
I love that idea about sharing inner spaces with the page and the reader. And I agree about the ‘insider’ knowledge of cities. When I lived in Leicester you knew if people were local by the way they pronounced ‘Belvoir’ Street (if you’re local, you say ‘Beaver St’!)
I love the idea that names for places only have currency if they are used – that if a council calls a street Sarah Street but everyone who lives there calls it Charlie Street, then it’s called Charlie St :)
S

]]> By: Sarah Butler http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/comment-page-1/#comment-2133 Sarah Butler Wed, 17 Jun 2009 08:18:15 +0000 http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/?p=1124#comment-2133 Hi Andy, I wonder if every place is a moment in time, to be present in and inhabit. I wonder if we can ever really revisit places, because we've changed, there are different people there, the sky's different etc. (and again, with a book, we are different people by the time we reread them?). This is making me think, though, about the 'trend' (?!) for putting filmed performances online - what does that do to/say about revisiting? I agree though, that the spoken and written word are different. I don't think I see spoken word - particularly work that's been created to be read - as 'just' a practice of the text. I'm afraid I can't think of anything very coherent to say this morning(see that - not write! What are blogs doing to our idea of text and speech?), but I'm thinking - in a half-formed way - about how spoken word takes place in a specific and chosen place, whilst a book is sent out into the world and the reader chooses where to read it. Perhaps the environment/ place has less influence over the experience of reading a book than it does over the experience of listening to spoken word? (I'm having horrible flashbacks of poetry readings in cold, atmosphereless libraries.....) S Hi Andy,
I wonder if every place is a moment in time, to be present in and inhabit. I wonder if we can ever really revisit places, because we’ve changed, there are different people there, the sky’s different etc. (and again, with a book, we are different people by the time we reread them?). This is making me think, though, about the ‘trend’ (?!) for putting filmed performances online – what does that do to/say about revisiting?
I agree though, that the spoken and written word are different. I don’t think I see spoken word – particularly work that’s been created to be read – as ‘just’ a practice of the text.
I’m afraid I can’t think of anything very coherent to say this morning(see that – not write! What are blogs doing to our idea of text and speech?), but I’m thinking – in a half-formed way – about how spoken word takes place in a specific and chosen place, whilst a book is sent out into the world and the reader chooses where to read it. Perhaps the environment/ place has less influence over the experience of reading a book than it does over the experience of listening to spoken word? (I’m having horrible flashbacks of poetry readings in cold, atmosphereless libraries…..)
S

]]> By: Andy Darby http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/comment-page-1/#comment-2124 Andy Darby Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:56:55 +0000 http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/?p=1124#comment-2124 Hi Sarah Your quote from De Certeau is most interesting. At first glance the spoken word is another presentation of written text, but actually it is a moment in time, to be present in and inhabit; you can't revisit it in the same way. So what act does the spoken word produce? Is the spoken word a practice of the text? Or a place in itself, and the practice listening? Hi Sarah
Your quote from De Certeau is most interesting.

At first glance the spoken word is another presentation of written text, but actually it is a moment in time, to be present in and inhabit; you can’t revisit it in the same way.

So what act does the spoken word produce? Is the spoken word a practice of the text? Or a place in itself, and the practice listening?

]]> By: Charlie Jordan http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/sarah-butler/making-new-places/comment-page-1/#comment-2121 Charlie Jordan Tue, 16 Jun 2009 16:24:55 +0000 http://myplaceoryours.org.uk/?p=1124#comment-2121 Interesting ideas and I love the idea of the place names being 'disposed like constellations' across the city.' Also once you get to know a city the names the locals give to places irrespective of the official names. In b'ham we have a sculpture of a naked woman in a pool of water with a fountain - she's been called the 'Floozey in the jacuzzi' by us all! Also intrigued by your notion that we create new spaces with our writing, and I think at the same time we're sharing our 'inner world' or spaces with the page and our readers. x Interesting ideas and I love the idea of the place names being ‘disposed like constellations’ across the city.’ Also once you get to know a city the names the locals give to places irrespective of the official names. In b’ham we have a sculpture of a naked woman in a pool of water with a fountain – she’s been called the ‘Floozey in the jacuzzi’ by us all!
Also intrigued by your notion that we create new spaces with our writing, and I think at the same time we’re sharing our ‘inner world’ or spaces with the page and our readers.
x

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